Both these characters seem far too durable for us to make a decision. From then on out, I wanted to read as much as I could (not limited to comics of course) everything from the Marvel and DC universe. Thanos is essentially restricted to his visuals. RELATED: Marvel: 10 Evil Alternate Versions Of Deadpool, Ranked From Lamest To Coolest. Thanos is absurdly strong, but he isn’t fast. However, she has spurned his advances almost every time, and even the unholy offering of wiping out half of all life in existence didn't win Lady Death over to Thanos' side. Or better jet, call me when Danny can destroy a mile long spaceship, survive in outer space, go through reinforced steel face-first and lift over 100 tons. Ergo, he'd land the first hit. SC4 Ben Harvey – Captain Marvel vs. Thanos SC5 Ben Harvey – Iron Fist vs. Darkseid was born into his godhood and has done seemingly nothing to expand upon it since Uxas became Darkseid. The Omega Beams are a one-shot kill for the most part and have been used by Darkseid for teleportation, resurrection, and all-out disaster. Being able to withstand punishment from beings of enormous power is an even more useful ability than super strength, and here we just can’t decide who’s the better one. He's been a writer for The Gamer, Screen Rant and CBR since 2017, contributing 100+ articles for a variety of topics. 1 Description 2 Interlude 3 Pre Fight 4 HERE WE GO! @kingofwakanda: he literally had a building collapse on him AND was hit by two missiles from a rocket launcher without a scratch. Thanos tanks the Iron Fist and cuts Danny in two with one sway of his sword. How is Danny so powerful? Thanos’ technology is incredible in its own right, with his floating chair being capable of traveling galaxies; to counter that, though, we have two words that will hand Darkseid the decisive victory: Mother Boxes. Could lose round 2, though I'd still back him. In one instance, a seriously depowered Darkseid was shown to match Zeus of all beings in the strength department, along with shattering a Green Lantern power ring with his bare hands. What does scaling has to do with the fact that Thanos was an absolute beast in Endgame, seeming even superior to his IW self? The Thanos Quest is a two-issue comic book limited series published in September and October 1990 by Marvel Comics. @snowleopard1018: Gotcha. He's an intergalactic conqueror and a supposed visionary who wants nothing more than to rid the universe of its pain and suffering. Fight takes place in the arena from Thor Raganrock. @snowleopard1018: That sounds more like Luke Cage. Don’t say Thanos vs Ironfist. OP says no scaling thoOnly feats Mjolnir has is it's visuals, which are wack in comparison to Danny's Iron Fist. He knows what he wants, and he will do whatever it takes to attain it. RELATED: Daredevil Vs.Iron Fist: Which Defender Would Win in a Fight? I will say that the Hulk has the potential to grow stronger (infinitely) than Thanos, but I doubt Hulk could stay conscious for that long. Darkseid is hardly ever shown having acquired the Anti-Life Equation; even if he does achieve it, its main power is to cause widespread loss of brain function, enabling the holder to make his victims dance like his personal puppets to his every whim. This leaves him without that one trump card that is needed to spell a victim’s doom. Mjolnir knocked Iron Man out cold. At that point, I needed champs that would make me more effective, not champs that would help me blow throw easy fights more quickly. He doesn't doubt himself, and he doesn't concern himself with trifling interpersonal relationships that may stand in the way of ultimate victory. @kingofwakanda: @socajunkie: I was being sarcastic, this thread bewilders me. Thanos can't quite say this. Superhero battle match: Thanos versus Team Iron Fist. No prep. Check out this video and tell me Danny is above or equal to Cap Marvel. Most average movie viewers dont actually look into the long scaling chain the Vine makes for Thanos and MCU characters. RELATED: MCU: 5 Characters Black Widow Would Team Up With (& 5 She's Say No To). Still don't get how Danny is even supposed to scratch a guy that snaps SB Thor like a twig. This is certainly a ridiculous amount of time to spend waging wars and gathering experience, but it looks like a teensy amount next to Darkseid’s. Thanos tanked the rain of fire from Sanctuary II and the shockwave from the van's destruction. Thanos doesn’t have technological assimilation like Darkseid did, once the latter was merged with Brainiac that is. Yes, this is a very new point that has gone in Thanos’ favor, as offspring were not his strong suit until the MCU version of his children came along. Thanos was one of my last 3* champs, and while I value him now for the speedup he can give, I'm not sure I would have found him so useful early in my 3* career. Thanos’ age has never been accurately specified, with the generally accepted figure being around 1,000 years of age. Superhero battle match: Thanos (MCU) versus Iron Fist. Saim also covers entertainment articles for Fansided. It is the ruler of Apokolips who bags the overall victory here. He made himself into a god of immeasurable strength and boundless cosmic energy. But so it seems thanos didn't bother to keep his gaurd up it was like a free shot. RELATED: Captain Marvel Vs. Thanos: Who Would Win? During the original Infinity Gauntlet saga, it is ultimately Thanos who beats Thanos. They’ve only fought twice that I’m aware of. Thanos knows what it's like to be without power, and he will ensure others know "what it's like to lose.". Updated on September 21st, 2020 by Josh Davison: Thanos and Darkseid are the two ultimate baddies of the Big Two. 5 Conclusion Marvel vs Marvel! He's a wannabe god with eyes on the Infinity Gauntlet to get all of his wishes at the snap of his fingers. 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However, Darkseid has a freakin’ world of his own that he rules over. Thanos still took lightning and direct hits from Mjolnir. Plus what durability does Danny have to say he can take a Thanos punch or a hit from his sword? Though he was Luke Cage level, Thanos is restricted to feats from Endgame only, absolutely no scaling allowed. I've seen ppl on YT call Thanos rock level which was the inspiration for this thread. He’s taken serious shots from the likes of Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and of course Superman, but barely ever shows any scratches from these fights. A jab knocked Cap (who was blocking with vibranium) away so hard he obliterated concrete. @ubercoffeetime: Your first mistake was listening to Youtube comments. Who will win in a fight between Thanos and Iron Fist? The gameplay is primarily taken from Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite where you can switch effortlessly between your team members and the Infinity Stones return as a gameplay mechanic. He's still manhandling Iron Man and Thor. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. However, it’s outstripped in power by the Infinity Gauntlet, which we all know is capable of turning all kinds of realities away. H2H only no exotic powers etc , … There is also the promise of Donny Cates and Geoff Shaw's fittingly titled Thanos Wins story that the Mad Titan will one day dominate all. Also he completely ate Wanda tossing massive chunks of earth at him. By contrast, Thanos was born a Deviant outcast in the Eternal civilization upon Titan. Imagine taking inspiration from YT comments smh. It’s like comparing a veteran with decades of experience with a fresh new recruit. If that was the idea, then OP does not explain this correctly. Thanos' Endgame feats are waaaaay out of Danny's league. Or that James doesn’t know how to soot a gun. Both the Marvel and DC Universes have an ultimate villain who battles the greatest heroes in comic books’ most epic storylines. If in Endgame, Thanos is portrayed as a nearly unstoppable force, a character feared throughout the entire universe, that has eliminated civilizations. Let’s put this is in simple terms: Do you see the Avengers ever beating the Justice League? Round two is a faster win bc the sword will bisect him. Lady Death's spurning of Thanos has had a unique side effect at several points during Thanos' existence: he can't die. The Avengers vs Thanosis one of PillsburyZomboi's DBXs. The League more often than not only manage to escape him rather than beat him. 100 Thanos vs 1000 SHREK and 1000 Iron Fist (Marvel vs Marvel) Being the unquestioned king of Apokolips, Darkseid has his army of Paradeamons, who know only a thirst for fear and hunt in astonishingly large groups. Thanos still stomps, eating hits from Mjolnir, fighting the trinity and taking lightning all mean he’s out of Danny’s league. Thanos is well-known for being wanted in the solar system for his crimes, and he carries these out by using his forces comprising of Outriders, personal underlings, and armada like the Sanctuary. Tanking Captain Marvels hits and literally been nearly unestopable, to the point that the ONLY one chance in a zillion for the whole Avengers ruster to defeat him is for Tony to sacrifice his life and use the Infinity Stones to vaporize him? KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > Iron Fist vs Thanos (see details) ozz81. The stone isn't there, but weatherman Phill Connors is having a bad day and decides to do something about the big purple bully. In fact, aside from "cursing" Deadpool with immortality, he only uses what little magic he knows to create marvels of engineering (like his so-called throne.) I don’t think people realize how absurdly broken Naruto really is. Darkseid's strength is immeasurable in that he’s been shown to one-shot guys like Shazam and Martian Manhunter like they were kids (which is kind of true in the former’s case). Pretty much. Darkseid has dueled the Justice League more times than anyone can count, and Thanos has waged several wars against the likes of the Avengers, X-Men, and Guardians of the Galaxy. VSSet UpThanos is restricted to feats from Endgame only, absolutely no scaling allowed Danny is mentally stable Hand to Hand Fight takes place in the He survived getting a moon thrown at him in Infinity War. They are both hulking conduits of vast cosmic power, and it's only natural that there would be an ever-raging debate over who would win should the two ever challenge one another. War Machine, Captain Marvel, She-Hulk and Black Panther vs. Thanos (Civil War II) ... what happens when Hulk gets mad and Iron Fist’s prodigious use of Kung-Fu. It's unclear whether the first chunk actually hits him or if he deflects it but the second one quite clearly does. Death cannot stop Thanos, as Death does not want Thanos. The ruler of Apokolips is actually a deity, who uses his body as an avatar to present himself to lesser beings. Enter Darkseid - the supervillain with the signature move to end all others. Say: a random guy that accomplishes what Thanos does in the final Endgame battle, IF Thor is not Thor but a guy that can only accomplish what we see in that battle, AND Worthy Cap does not have the powers implied in the scene but only what we literally see displayed… etc. Danny wrecks round 1. There have been many interpretations of Darkseid, but we’ll pick the DCAU version for being the most technologically advanced one by far. You mean feats like defeating Thor, Worthy Cap and Ironman? That's just a damage output feat followed by a durability feat. (Conversely, the forgettable backdrops of Iron Fist remind us that the live-action incarnation of Danny Rand, the Immortal Iron Fist, defender of K’un-L’un, sworn enemy of the Hand, is … Darkseid has far too many inherent qualities such as ruthlessness, power, influence, and character that allow him to be a cut above Thanos. Stats equalized is a legit battle. The series was written by Jim Starlin, and drawn by Ron Lim. Without scaling, though, he isn't anything beyond peak human speed, and he didn't have many impressive durability feats without scaling. This easily makes him potentially billions of years old, and several hundred thousand years at the very youngest. But there’s the fact that Thanos is being compared to a guy who slaps Superman around. This topic is locked from further discussion. Thor vs. Thanos (End of Infinity) By lowbrowcomics on February 1, ... what happens when Hulk gets mad and Iron Fist’s prodigious use of Kung-Fu. The same gameplay style from Infinite, the style used in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 where it's 3 team members with assists or a similar gameplay style from Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash … Mjolnir >>> Iron Fist. @boc: How about Thanos taking hits from Captain Marvel who was destroying the Sanctuary easily. (That thumbnail really took me an hour to make...) The fighters on the Avengers side will be Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Ronin (Hawkeye) and Ant-Man. Are we to ignore that? The story line is a continuation of the events - involving resurrected Starlin-character Thanos, featured in the title Silver Surfer. @snowleopard1018: You’re a little confused. Even then, Thanos still stomps, since Cap Marvel is shown effortlessly lifting a spaceship that is easily +100 tones, and is then shown flying through one of Thanos’ immense big ass spaceships like it was butter, and then her 100+ ton punches do not harm Thanos. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Although Thanos has been shown to lose to guys like Galactus and Odin, he’s still been able to take punishment from them and walk away only slightly injured. Both these supervillains are intergalactic despots who have conquered hundreds of worlds. IMO we use feats to showcase an ability, but common sense must also be applied. From then on out, I wanted to read as much as I could (not limited to comics of course) everything from the Marvel and DC universe. But even if we ignore the false setup and for the sake of the debate work on the premise you present. Thanos doesn't really need scaling. This one seems to be almost even stevens, with Thanos having shown he’s strong enough to beat down the likes of Hulk, Thor, and run Odin close. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. As Thanos himself says in Avengers: Endgame, "I am inevitable.". I fail to see how he's going to succeed where Iron-Man, Thor and Mjolnir amped Cap failed. Thanos punched Captain America several feet through a solid boulder. The Omega Beams are capable of traveling galaxy-wide distances and are locked on its target till eternity unless directed on something else. Thanos doesn't really need magic, or so he thinks! The DC superhero team is far more powerful than Marvel’s offering, and Darkseid has to contend with the former on a regular basis. But still Thor did do it. We just can’t see Thanos being able to give the likes of Superman, Flash, and Wonder Woman a hard time. He’s also shown moments where he’s picked up objects of enormous weight, as well as hold back force that would crush someone else. Iron Fist couldn’t rlly beat Cap, so why Thanos? Pretty sure Thanos curbs regardless of no scaling. In this list, we’ve considered all depictions of these characters, not just the comic books. It’s not much of a problem for Darkseid, though, as he always stomps the Justice League whenever they try to fight him. This isn't the case in more recent comics, as Gamora finally slew Thanos during Infinity War.However, we know Thanos will return thanks to recent issues of Thor and the upcoming Eternals comic. Darkseid is a very single-minded being. What is this? Meaning his best feat is punching Cap through a rock. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Who will win in a fight between Thanos and Team Iron Fist? This is like that episode of spongebob where Danny is the school bully and and thanos is spongebob. Darkseid and Thanos have often been compared to each other, but which one of these two villainous powerhouses is actually stronger? All other base resources are available. He beats Hulk in every category. Speaking of Thanos....let's hope that he isn't written like his Bendis counterpart *shudders*. It pits The Avengers and Thanos from Marvel. With this Gauntlet, it’s pretty much an instant victory for Thanos. The Mad Titan will always return to torment all of existence, and it is only a matter of time before he finally seizes complete victory. Danny dies a horrible death. Thanos has been shown to be more manic, savage, and vindictive at times. 1 X-Men vs. Street Fighter 2 Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes 3 Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds 3.1 Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 4 Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite 4.1 Character Select 4.2 Intro 4.3 Outro 4.4 Post-match victory text 5 Allusions “By our combined strength, the result was certain.” “Forget about a rematch. If you’re talking basic hand to hand fighting skill, I’d say Iron Fist, since that’s his thing. This. He used vile magicks and profane sciences to expand his capabilities constantly until he became the feared Mad Titan he is today — on par with or possibly even more powerful than Darkseid. Thor is still Thor. The first time was a Marvel Team-Up story with the Hulk and the Heroes For Hire, aka Iron Fist and Power Man/Luke Cage. However, we know Thanos will return thanks to recent issues of Thor and the upcoming Eternals comic. Ebony Maw and Corvus Glaive worked to subvert Thanos almost immediately after their first appearance during Infinity. Both Thanos and Darkseid have one MacGuffin that is used as part of their core characterization. Only feats Mjolnir has is it's visuals, which are wack in comparison to Danny's Iron Fist. You can throw scaling out of the window and you still have Captain Marvel one shotting a huge ship followed by Thanos taking direct hits from her. This combination led to Darkseid creating advanced tech, such as the Agony Matrix, which was confirmed to cause pain millions of times what even Superman could withstand, as well as a mysterious blade that was capable of carving Superman’s heart out. Wanda has a wide range of magical capabilities, armed via her hex bolts — she can burn, atomize, explode, manifest, enhance, or negate almost anything. NEXT: DC: Every Iteration Of The Crime Syndicate, Explained. @boc: what? That's way more than an Iron Fist can dish out, and Danny can't spam those anyway. And since in the scene the gun wasn’t fired, we must pretend that (since the gun is featless) it won’t kill Tyson if James shoots him. Random encounter. However, this doesn’t make Thanos instantly more powerful, and if you’re having doubts over who takes the crown, then check out these points we’ve stacked up. Superhero battle match: Thanos versus Iron Fist. Daredevil SC6 Ben Harvey – Thor vs. Hulk SC7 Ben Harvey – Professor X vs. Magneto SC8 Ben Harvey – Hulk vs… Who will win in a fight between Thanos (MCU) and Iron Fist? While the Black Order is a dangerous group of very powerful killers, it's hard to argue that Darkseid doesn't have better and more loyal warriors at his beck and call. On top of that, his ultimate goal is to win the hand of his love, Lady Death. TITANIC POWER. RELATED: Marvel: 5 DC Heroes Magik Could Defeat (& 5 She Would Lose To). Using his Omega Beams, Darkseid has ruled worlds with an iron fist. All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. @summary_and_conclusion: no, he definitely did not... @rebake: I'm pretty sure i saw it in the movies. In 4, you can choose between a few options in regards to play style. There is also the promise of Donny Cates and Geoff Shaw's fittingly titled Thanos … This is the review of the Avengers Infinity War "Iron Man vs. Thanos" Battle Set Hero Vision Figures. In the end, that’s all that matters. Thanos arrives in Punxsutawney at two pm, searching for the time stone that he had heard might be responsible for giving a rodent the gift of foresight. DC: Ranking Each Legion Of Super-Heroes' Outfit. This isn't the case in more recent comics, as Gamora finally slew Thanos during Infinity War. Saim Cheeda is an entertainment writer covering all of Film, TV, Gaming and Books. Born to a race of godlike beings on Saturn's moon Titan, the destiny they lay ahead for Thanos since his birth was always meant to be one of utter destruction. People take the “use feat to prove character’s abilities” way too literally. Why? If it was a no-holds-barred type fight where winning was the only goal, then Bats would likely take it. As we saw, the Black Order was fiercely loyal to their father, to the point where they chose death before chances to escape. Despite having racked up reputable feats and prowess for himself, Thanos is still not at the level of Darkseid. Tanking Captain Marvel’s bullrush and lightning give Thanos the win. RELATED: Top 10 Alternate Versions Of The Green Arrow. I'm also a little confused as to how Danny is supposed to do anything remotely damaging to Thanos just because we take away scaling. Plus, if you compare them to the likes of Kalibak, Steppenwolf, Mantis, the Female Furies, or the more recent addition of Grail, the Black Order does seem to be left wanting. Seems like both characters can one-shot the other here, and Danny happens to be more skilled. It's fun to imagine how such a showdown would turn out, and we hope to settle the score here with a few additional points. @socajunkie: didn't Thor chopped of thanos head with mjolnir? @boc: You don't think this is enough to take Iron Fists? The story line leads… In the comics, he achieved this so easily that it didn’t even look difficult; in the MCU, he achieved the Snap as well, and destroyed half of all life. This leaves us with the simple task of bringing up Thanos’ greatest feat: Ending life on a trillion-level genocide. I swear y'all have no idea what "no scaling" means. @ubercoffeetime: The stat difference is monumental. For those who don’t know: Darkseid is the character that led to the creation of Thanos, making the former the original figure of warlord dominance in comic books. All Might VS Iron Fist; Android 16 Vs Vision; Android 18 vs. Captain Marvel; Ant-Man vs Shino Aburame; Avengers (Movie) and Goku vs Thanos (Movie) B Baby vs Venom; Beerus VS Jean Grey; Beerus vs Odin; Beta Ray Bill vs. Vegeta; Black Bolt vs Son Goku; Black Bolt vs Zebra; Blackheart vs Frieza/Freeza; Apart from freelance writing, Saim is a lifestyle blogger, co-owning the blog 3 States Apart. He's sought out the Anti-Life Equation, but that's it. RELATED: Marvel: Dark Spider-Man Villains, Ranked From Lamest To Coolest. The DC Animated Universe (DCAU), beginning with Batman The Animated Series in 1992 and concluding with Justice League… Its just another take on looking at the battle, scaling is a vine creation. Or some of the things you are trying to pull out in this thread. Add to that, Darkseid commands several generals like Steppenwolf, Big Barda, Kalibak, among others, whose personal physiologies themselves are equivalent to armies. In terms of Comics, Thanos wins, hands down. @eredin12: i know you ca'nt compare the size, that's why i did'nt compare the van sized hole to iron man's entire armor but i compared it to SM's fist and iron … 616 Iron Fist WITHOUT chi vs Deathstroke without his ikon suit. For Darkseid, it is the Anti-Life Equation; Thanos’ signature weapon is the Infinity Gauntlet. Darkseid has been a popular character for many decades, owing to him being the archenemy the Justice League; Thanos has usurped Darkseid in popularity, though, thanks to the MCU making him mainstream popular. Thanos Vs Darkseid: Who Is Really Stronger? I'm not familiar with Netflix shows but from what I know breaking vibranium shield >>>>> anything Iron Fist could do. And Thanos is still Thanos. Thanos was hated and scorned, and so he became a creature of hate and scorn. Neutral fighting area ... Can he win the final battle from Endgame as Thanos and his forces attempt to destroy Godzilla and take the stones? I don't think you understand what it means to have scaling restricted. Thanos' powers of telekinesis, telepathy, and cosmic energy are only used sparingly and aren’t considered part of his usual arsenal. Darkseid simply has more resources and has more powerful generals at his disposal. Lady Death's spurning of Thanos has had a unique side effect at several points during Thanos' existence: he can't die. Without scaling I dont think Thanos has the feats to take an Iron Fist, his best were the Mjolnir hits but those didn't come close to Danny's level of damage output. In almost all of his stories, Darkseid is seen fighting a seemingly looped war with New Genesis, one where Highfather always seems a step ahead. Tony Stark is a bit surprised that Thanos knows him in Avengers: Infinity War when the two characters meet on Titan, and the connection between them is … Sure, in one story Darkseid was able to acquire the Anti-Life Equation and totally end the Fourth World, but this wasn’t made out to be as enormous an event for us to seriously take it as the ultimate feat. Danny dies from a jab. This no scaling is absurd. Iron Fist was one of my first 3* champs and I found him extremely valuable for a long time. In a fight to the death who comes out on top under these conditions? Darkseid, being a New God, has a physiology that takes abuse of only the highest quality to make him falter. IF at best and peak with Power Gem ( btw hes a proficient user with it in this scenario) vs Thanos ( no:- HOTU, IG, CC etc) in the following :-1. This kind of enormous victory is one where Darkseid sees second place to Thanos. Thanos has no chance of matching Darkseid in terms of experience, which means he just doesn’t know the numbers of tricks, warmongering, and sadism levels that Darkseid has achieved. Are people saying Danny actually for real...one hit and he’s dead. Are we to ignore everything that throughout Endgame is implied about him? A character that requires that the ENTIRE Avengers cast unites for a life and death showdown. But you cannot pretend that an object or character ceases to be what it is, due to the lack of feats or scaling. In his pursuits against the Justice League, Darkseid has lost more conquests than he’s won. Thanos hurting Thor is not a good feat because, for the purposes of this thread, Thor has no feats. Imagine I take James Bond from a specific scene of his last films, where he has a gun but does not use it, then face him with Mike Tyson and say “No scaling”. I would understand if you would argue that without the use of scaling, we cannot have an accurate measurement for someone’s power. He tanked the power stone explosion in his hand so he can catch a punch. etc. 1 Doesn't Take Advantage of its Colorful Cast, Nocterra #1 Is a High-Octane Debut for Scott Snyder and Tony Daniel, The Swamp Thing Leans Hard Into Horror With Its New Protagonist, The Suicide Squad #1 Is Infinite Frontier's Bloodiest Launch, Marvel: 10 Characters Who Made Their Debut In Another Hero's Series, 5 Ways Captain America Is Better In The MCU (& Why He's Better In The Comics), 10 Webtoons That Will Have Your Heart Racing, 10 DC Comics To Read Before Zack Snyder's Justice League, 5 Avengers Who Would Make Great Jedi (& 5 Who Would Fall To The Dark Side), 10 Ways Nightwing Would Be A Better Batman Than Red Hood, 5 Superman Villains Who Deserve To Be In The Movies (& 5 Who Don't), 10 Most Dangerous Villains Spider-Man Fought Against, 10 Worst Time Travelers In The DC Universe, Ranked, DC: 10 Alternate Universes Where Batman Kills. I think it happened in endgame I believe. If power levels are to be considered, then Darkseid’s children are hopelessly far ahead of the Black Order, with Orion, Mister Miracle, and Kalibak all capable of making the Black Order look like a joke; however, we’re considering the fact here that all of Darkseid’s children despise him, meaning there’s no undying loyalty in them as there is in the Black Order. Stormbreaker is still Stormbreaker, even if we don’t have feats to measure exactly how powerful it is, just like a gun is still a gun. Thanos, meanwhile, is the infamous Mad Titan. etc. Feats only, like Thanos breaking rocks or tanking lightning that broke open the ground - these are actual quantifiable feats.
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